Tuesday, April 03, 2007

protector

I was reading Newsweek (4/7/07) this afternoon and read part of an interview with Elizabeth Edwards, John Edwards' wife. Two of the questions the interviewer asked her were about her faith in God and beliefs about God. Her responses were interesting and challenged me to think about what I would say in response to her.

Newsweek: You've kept God out of the public discussion of your situation (referring to death of her son). Why?

E. Edwards: I had to think about a God that would not save my son. Wade was- and I have lots of evidence of this; it's not just his mother saying it - a good and gentle boy. He reached out to people who were misfits and outcasts all the time...You'd think that if God was going to protect somebody, he'd protect that boy. But not only did he not protect him, the wind blew him from the road. The hand of God blew him from the road. So I had to think, "What kind of God do I have that doesn't intervene-in fact, may even participate- in the death of this good boy?" I talk about it in my book, that I had to accept that my God was a God who promised enlightenment and salvation. And that's all. Didn't promise us protection. I've had to come to grips with a God that fits my own experience, which is, my God could not be offering protection and not have protected my boy.

Newsweek: You didn't lose your faith, you changed your faith? Or did you lose it for a time?

E. Edwards: I'm not praying for God to save me from cancer. I'm not. God will enlighten me when the time comes. And if I've done the right thing, I will be enlightened. And if I believe, I'll be saved. And that's all he promises me.

I appreciated her honesty about the real questions that she has wrestled with since her son's death. I can't imagine experiencing that sort of loss/pain. I was struck, though, by her assertion that God does not offer protection. Our world is so fallen and broken, but I do think that God promises to protect his children. What does his protection mean, then, when there is so much suffering and pain in our world? It clearly doesn't mean that Christians won't experience real pain and loss and the effects of sin. I think that it does mean, though, that he promises to always be there with us and that nothing will happen to us that he has not allowed (that has not come through him first and that he will not use for his good purposes in our lives). This must be a hard thing to believe if you've experienced the death of a child. Edwards says, "The hand of God blew him from the road." I don't think that I believe that or at least wouldn't use those words. I mean, I think that God allowed it to happen, but that it was a result of the fallen world and that Jesus was weeping over it. I feel like this is a somewhat insufficient response, but this is what's on my mind right. What are your responses to her comments? What do you think that God's promise of protection, to be our refuge, means? I feel like this is a huge topic to tackle, but I would appreciate any insights that you have.

I love you, O Lord, my strength. The Lord is my rock, my fortress, and my deliverer; my God is my rock in whom I take refuge. He is my shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold. I call to the Lord who is worthy of praise, and I am saved from my enemies. The cords of death entangled me; the torrents of destruction overwhelmed me. The cords of the grave coiled around me and the snares of death confronted me. In my distress, I called to the Lord; I cried to my God for help. From his temple he heard my voice; my cry came before him into his ears...He reached down from on high and took hold of me; he drew me out of deep waters. He rescued me from my powerful enemy, from my foes, who were too strong for me. They confronted me in the day of my disaster, but the Lord was my support. He brought me into a spacious place; he rescued me because he delighted in me.
Psalm 18: 1-6, 16-19

But the Lord is faithful and he will strengthen and protect you from the evil one.
2 Thes. 3:3

8 comments:

Laura said...

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After reading your post, I thought hmmmm...I serve a God that allowed his own Son to be put to death. How the heck could a loving God allow that? Well, I guess He allowed it cause through it we receive something--a miracle--a relationship to God himself.

When we look back at the story of Christ's death/res. we see this was no easy, flowery thing. Jesus himself it seems was filled w/ "why" questions: "Father, why have you forsaken Me?" We see, at the end of the story, God has not forsaken Him but has glorified Him, for our sake. To that, I say "Wow!"

Anonymous said...

I agree with both of your comments. Here's a few more thoughts on a hard subject.

this doesn't address the protection part directly, but someone once said that God sees the whole picture and we don't. We experience on this earth one slice of a sausage, like seeing one little clip of a movie, we wouldn't understand the meaning of a movie if we only say one tiny piece.

Pain has the potential to lead us to deeper intimacy with God since it can humble us and has the potential to help us to care about others. The Joshua House Ministry helps poor orphaned children because a missionary couple lost their own child and God showed them that in the same way he deeply cares about poor orphaned children.

It may be that this earth (which we normally take as our whole existence) is a temporary time frame God chooses to use to redeem us and heal us after the fall for the rest of eternity.

And since God is good, he can't do anything that isn't good, but sometimes good looks different than we think. And if his people aren't different than the rest of the world, then what good are they to the rest of the world?

But God is the only one who can do what humans do so poorly--that is, exercise both justice and mercy at the same time. We tend to one or the other, so we have to trust that God being perfectly just and merciful knows better what he's doing than we do and also look at ourselves for how much of the pain we cause others on this earth.

Amber

Romans 8:28

Anonymous said...

one other thought, God doesn't just watch the plot from above but joined in as the Hero like John Eldredge's Sacred Romance says.

Anonymous said...

The image of God that resonates with me is one of a loving, suffering parent who watches over her children as they make their way in the world. All God's children have the freedom to make our own choices and are vulnerable to forces of nature (like wind on a road) that God created but does not control. God like all good parents, is available to guide us in our choices but is not and cannot be all-protecting -- otherwise there would be no free will. I agree with Amber that there is so much we don't know that it's impossible to make rational sense of it all. But, nevertheless, it is helpful for me to know that God is and can be a refuge for comfort and guidance as I make choices and experience/interpret events outside of my control.
Mom

Lexie said...

yeah, those are good questions, Megs. I agree with you, it's very brave of Elizabeth Edwards to share her thoughts so honestly and publicly on such a painful subject. The crazy thing is, though, God DOES promise protection and healing-- but also promises that we will endure terrible pain and suffering. It's so confusing. When I was in Manila, one of the missionaries there asked us what we made of this verse in Psalms or Proverbs that goes something like "I have never seen the children of the righteous go without bread". But here we were, seeing the children of the righteous AND unrighteous go hungry. God promises he aligns himself with the poor and is actually FOUND there, yet two children died that I knew because of lack of proper healthcare. I don't understand it. I'm hoping that God will help me understand more and more as I keep trusting Him.

Heidi said...

This is such an excellent post. I love the questions you raise, though they are intimidatingly difficult- how can we answer without being flippant?

God definitely promises to be with us, and never to forsake us. I think one of the confusing aspects of God is that he doesn't respond the same way every time. Sometimes he heals people and sometimes he doesn't and it doesn't seem like we can manipulate the outcome, though we might pray for certain answers.

I think that if we go to God in our pain, sorrow, rage and confusion, that he offers a refuge where we can ultimately end in hope rather than bitterness, but it is definitely a journey and not a quick fix.

Renae said...

Thank you for sharing this... I ran across your blog through stlblogs... it does bring up such interesting and complex things to think about regarding God's character and how He interacts with us.

I think it's right that He is our Protector, and that He promises to be with us amidst our suffering. The suffering draws us to Him and brings us comfort, and I feel much more at peace (in that "surpasses understanding" sort of way!), often, in the midst of pain than I do when I'm rocking along thinking everything is peachy.

So, He protects us, perhaps by preserving our faith and offering, peace, comfort, some healing, and salvation amidst a broken and sinful world. But He doesn't promise to protect us from the effects of sin, but, in fact, tells us that we *will* suffer.

This all reminds me of I Cor. 1:18: "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."

Anonymous said...

Wonderful post...came across your blog in Stlouis blogs. Good questions and comments.

As an agnostic I'd suggest that its a waste of time to try and rationlize or explain why bad things happen to good people. In other words, try to turn something awful, like the death of an innocent child, into something good or explainable in the context of religion or God.

I think that takes you away from the probable truth -that we are on our own and that sometimes there is no one, no thing to blame for a tragedy.

Sometimes simplicity is best -an all-loving God wouldn't let a child die if he/she could do something about it.

Be careful spending your time rationilizing God's version of love from your own. It should be the same.